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		<title>By: JTH</title>
		<link>http://modeshift.org/419/flip-interactively-documenting-factory-farms/comment-page-1/#comment-1685</link>
		<dc:creator>JTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith
My humble opinion ... yes

We discussed this at some TBEDC meeting with regards to proposed site south of TC

Also:
http://www.northernexpress.com/editorial/features.asp?id=2617
Scroll down to sidebar &quot;The Poop on Animal Factories&quot;

&quot;CAFOs and ethanol refineries go hand in hand because livestock eat the corn byproduct produced by the refineries.&quot;
That’s relevant here because a company with plans to build a refinery in McBain is now talking to several farm operations about setting up operations, according to Rick Johnson, a partner with NextGen Energy LLC of Livonia, Michigan.
“We’ll take [the corn byproduct] offsite if we have to, but we’d prefer not to do that,” he said.

My humble opinion on ethanol: scrap protection for Florida Sugar, allow imports from Brazil. 
Corn ethanol is for the Iowa caucus...

Ciao
Chip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith<br />
My humble opinion &#8230; yes</p>
<p>We discussed this at some TBEDC meeting with regards to proposed site south of TC</p>
<p>Also:<br />
<a href="http://www.northernexpress.com/editorial/features.asp?id=2617" rel="nofollow">http://www.northernexpress.com/editorial/features.asp?id=2617</a><br />
Scroll down to sidebar &#8220;The Poop on Animal Factories&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;CAFOs and ethanol refineries go hand in hand because livestock eat the corn byproduct produced by the refineries.&#8221;<br />
That’s relevant here because a company with plans to build a refinery in McBain is now talking to several farm operations about setting up operations, according to Rick Johnson, a partner with NextGen Energy LLC of Livonia, Michigan.<br />
“We’ll take [the corn byproduct] offsite if we have to, but we’d prefer not to do that,” he said.</p>
<p>My humble opinion on ethanol: scrap protection for Florida Sugar, allow imports from Brazil.<br />
Corn ethanol is for the Iowa caucus&#8230;</p>
<p>Ciao<br />
Chip</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chip, interesting assertion. So this is another potential downside of the ethanol craze? Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chip, interesting assertion. So this is another potential downside of the ethanol craze? Keith</p>
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		<title>By: JTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent piece

Another aspect : look into corn ethanol projects. 
Byproduct of the process is low quality cattle feed.
It is most economical to place a feedlot next to the ethanol plant rather than incur shipping costs. Result : groundwater contamination.

Ethanol process needs water, manure waste contaminates it.
www.ethanolproducer.com/article.jsp?article_id=2740

&quot;water efficiency of three to six gallons of water used per gallon of ethanol produced.&quot;

On this one I&#039;ll say NIMBY

I&#039;ll try for free range proteins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent piece</p>
<p>Another aspect : look into corn ethanol projects.<br />
Byproduct of the process is low quality cattle feed.<br />
It is most economical to place a feedlot next to the ethanol plant rather than incur shipping costs. Result : groundwater contamination.</p>
<p>Ethanol process needs water, manure waste contaminates it.<br />
<a href="http://www.ethanolproducer.com/article.jsp?article_id=2740" rel="nofollow">http://www.ethanolproducer.com/article.jsp?article_id=2740</a></p>
<p>&#8220;water efficiency of three to six gallons of water used per gallon of ethanol produced.&#8221;</p>
<p>On this one I&#8217;ll say NIMBY</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try for free range proteins</p>
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