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	<title>Comments on: Big Green&#8217;s Silent Spring For Rachel Carson &#8212; Take Two</title>
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		<title>By: community grants</title>
		<link>http://modeshift.org/419/big-greens-silent-spring-for-rachel-carson-take-two/comment-page-1/#comment-8669</link>
		<dc:creator>community grants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please let me know if you&#039;re looking for a author for your blog. You have some really great articles and I believe I would be a good asset. If you ever want to take some of the load off, I&#039;d absolutely love to write some articles for your blog in exchange for a link back to mine. Please blast me an email if interested. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please let me know if you&#8217;re looking for a author for your blog. You have some really great articles and I believe I would be a good asset. If you ever want to take some of the load off, I&#8217;d absolutely love to write some articles for your blog in exchange for a link back to mine. Please blast me an email if interested. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Johnie Sutphen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnie Sutphen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 04:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please let me know if you&#039;re looking for a author for your site. You have some really great articles and I believe I would be a good asset. If you ever want to take some of the load off, I&#039;d absolutely love to write some articles for your blog in exchange for a link back to mine. Please send me an e-mail if interested. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please let me know if you&#8217;re looking for a author for your site. You have some really great articles and I believe I would be a good asset. If you ever want to take some of the load off, I&#8217;d absolutely love to write some articles for your blog in exchange for a link back to mine. Please send me an e-mail if interested. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: fruit mocking party</title>
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		<dc:creator>fruit mocking party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 23:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy would you mind letting me know which web host you&#8217;re utilizing? I&#8217;ve loaded your blog in 3 completely different browsers and I must say this blog loads a lot quicker then most. Can you recommend a good hosting provider at a fair price? Thanks a lot, I appreciate it!</p>
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		<title>By: bug_girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>bug_girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 00:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My most recent posts on the topic:
http://membracid.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/ddt-malaria-insecticide-resistance/#more-313

http://membracid.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/ddt-junk-science-malaria-and-the-attack-on-rachel-carson/

I was thinking of the Entomological Society of America, and the Ecological Society of America--both professional scientific organizations.

BTW, May Berenbaum has done an awesome job of discussing this, and you can&#039;t get more credibility than May. In addition to being just about universally beloved, she&#039;s a member of the National Academy, and Chair of her Entomology Department. Here article is here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/04/AR2005060400130.html

I&#039;m going to contact her this week to ask if she&#039;ll sponsor a resolution that the society can endorse.  The National Geographic article just annoyed me so much, I am past trying to protect my career. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My most recent posts on the topic:<br />
<a href="http://membracid.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/ddt-malaria-insecticide-resistance/#more-313" rel="nofollow">http://membracid.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/ddt-malaria-insecticide-resistance/#more-313</a></p>
<p><a href="http://membracid.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/ddt-junk-science-malaria-and-the-attack-on-rachel-carson/" rel="nofollow">http://membracid.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/ddt-junk-science-malaria-and-the-attack-on-rachel-carson/</a></p>
<p>I was thinking of the Entomological Society of America, and the Ecological Society of America&#8211;both professional scientific organizations.</p>
<p>BTW, May Berenbaum has done an awesome job of discussing this, and you can&#8217;t get more credibility than May. In addition to being just about universally beloved, she&#8217;s a member of the National Academy, and Chair of her Entomology Department. Here article is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/04/AR2005060400130.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/04/AR2005060400130.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to contact her this week to ask if she&#8217;ll sponsor a resolution that the society can endorse.  The National Geographic article just annoyed me so much, I am past trying to protect my career. <img src='http://modeshift.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hank Roberts</title>
		<link>http://modeshift.org/419/big-greens-silent-spring-for-rachel-carson-take-two/comment-page-1/#comment-1579</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I’d love to help, but after a week of personal attacks 
&gt; on my blog and via email, I’m not so sure

This is the scary part -- fifty years of attacks on the science and anyone trying to talk about it in a way that actually educates the public, and they are continuing.

What worries me is that the corporations may have learned far more about fooling the public from the history of the tobacco industry than the journalists did.  And they don&#039;t intend to lose the current war on science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I’d love to help, but after a week of personal attacks<br />
&gt; on my blog and via email, I’m not so sure</p>
<p>This is the scary part &#8212; fifty years of attacks on the science and anyone trying to talk about it in a way that actually educates the public, and they are continuing.</p>
<p>What worries me is that the corporations may have learned far more about fooling the public from the history of the tobacco industry than the journalists did.  And they don&#8217;t intend to lose the current war on science.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Schneider</title>
		<link>http://modeshift.org/419/big-greens-silent-spring-for-rachel-carson-take-two/comment-page-1/#comment-1577</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Girl,
Give me your blog and I&#039;ll take a look. The national organizations that should be involved, as identified in the first post on this subject on May 30, are the NRDC, Environmental Defense, Audobon, and Sierra Club. Thanks, Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Girl,<br />
Give me your blog and I&#8217;ll take a look. The national organizations that should be involved, as identified in the first post on this subject on May 30, are the NRDC, Environmental Defense, Audobon, and Sierra Club. Thanks, Keith</p>
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		<title>By: bug_girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>bug_girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 04:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this! I&#039;m trying to do my part to set some of the biological errors straight at my blog.  By &quot;national organizations&quot; what ones do you have one in mind?

I&#039;d love to help, but after a week of personal attacks on my blog and via email, I&#039;m not so sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this! I&#8217;m trying to do my part to set some of the biological errors straight at my blog.  By &#8220;national organizations&#8221; what ones do you have one in mind?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to help, but after a week of personal attacks on my blog and via email, I&#8217;m not so sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Marjorie Mazel Hecht</title>
		<link>http://modeshift.org/419/big-greens-silent-spring-for-rachel-carson-take-two/comment-page-1/#comment-1571</link>
		<dc:creator>Marjorie Mazel Hecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Rachel Carson&#039;s book came out in 1962, naturalist and entomologist J. Gordon Edwards was eager to read it. But when he began to look at the scientific studies she cited, he was very troubled at her misreporting. His article about Caron is available on our website. Edwards, now deceased, was a mountaineer and a birder. 

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/summ02/Carson.html



Marje Hecht
Managing Editor
21st Century Science &amp; Technology
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Rachel Carson&#8217;s book came out in 1962, naturalist and entomologist J. Gordon Edwards was eager to read it. But when he began to look at the scientific studies she cited, he was very troubled at her misreporting. His article about Caron is available on our website. Edwards, now deceased, was a mountaineer and a birder. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/summ02/Carson.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/summ02/Carson.html</a></p>
<p>Marje Hecht<br />
Managing Editor<br />
21st Century Science &amp; Technology<br />
<a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kovarik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Kovarik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 11:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether the campaign against Carson&#039;s ideas in the 1960s was designed by the  
chemical industry to protect its markets, or whether the worldviews  
of the agricultural communities were simply too narrow to question  
their own practices and consider alternatives, I&#039;ve actually never  
been able to quite understand. Probably some of both.

Another thing:   In the recent global warming debate have we clearly seen the hand of industry censors  reaching through government to stifle legitimate science. Have they  
actually become less adept at the technique over the years; are they   
so clumsy now as to be repeatedly caught at it?     

Carson&#039;s tenure at Fish and Wildlife was cut short by cancer, but God  
knows what would have happened to her career today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether the campaign against Carson&#8217;s ideas in the 1960s was designed by the<br />
chemical industry to protect its markets, or whether the worldviews<br />
of the agricultural communities were simply too narrow to question<br />
their own practices and consider alternatives, I&#8217;ve actually never<br />
been able to quite understand. Probably some of both.</p>
<p>Another thing:   In the recent global warming debate have we clearly seen the hand of industry censors  reaching through government to stifle legitimate science. Have they<br />
actually become less adept at the technique over the years; are they<br />
so clumsy now as to be repeatedly caught at it?     </p>
<p>Carson&#8217;s tenure at Fish and Wildlife was cut short by cancer, but God<br />
knows what would have happened to her career today.</p>
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		<title>By: fountainmeadows</title>
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		<dc:creator>fountainmeadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 06:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m totally sympathetic with honoring Rachel Carson and her contributions, but I&#039;m not sure the focus on her achievements or even the continuing documentation of all the environmental changes and loss of wildlife holds much promise in turning things around from where we find ourselves in our environmental dilemmas. The battle needs broader allies beyond the activist life sciences and pundit classes. 

Call me a cynic, but I don&#039;t think &#039;we&#039; as a human race will respond to anything short of understanding this as a crisis to our own well being of personal health. And who&#039;s to diagnose such disorder? I think responsibility needs to be placed on the doorstep of our medical community to administer a clear prescriptive for change for the sake of human health. Hand in hand with biologists and environmental engineers of all stripes, those in medicine need to step up and take some leadership in supporting changes where compromise is still more risk than sound medical science should be supporting. 

Waiting for all the canaries to drop may take too long while the subtle (and not so subtle) declines in human health conditions may hold more direct impact to turn political will on these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m totally sympathetic with honoring Rachel Carson and her contributions, but I&#8217;m not sure the focus on her achievements or even the continuing documentation of all the environmental changes and loss of wildlife holds much promise in turning things around from where we find ourselves in our environmental dilemmas. The battle needs broader allies beyond the activist life sciences and pundit classes. </p>
<p>Call me a cynic, but I don&#8217;t think &#8216;we&#8217; as a human race will respond to anything short of understanding this as a crisis to our own well being of personal health. And who&#8217;s to diagnose such disorder? I think responsibility needs to be placed on the doorstep of our medical community to administer a clear prescriptive for change for the sake of human health. Hand in hand with biologists and environmental engineers of all stripes, those in medicine need to step up and take some leadership in supporting changes where compromise is still more risk than sound medical science should be supporting. </p>
<p>Waiting for all the canaries to drop may take too long while the subtle (and not so subtle) declines in human health conditions may hold more direct impact to turn political will on these issues.</p>
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